One of the groups I hope to make sense of (by molecular means) is the odoratum group. The type of odoratum is European so its name won't change. The Japanese material is likely two or more species; maximowiczii in the north, pluriflorum (the commonly cultivated species with red stems, variegated, etc), and thunbergii. Most of what is in cultivation in North America seems to be the Japanese pluriflorum. The only "commonly" available true odoratum is "Flore Pleno." I have a few European clones, but the more the merrier (and also better accuracy in molecular work as long as the genes are informative). Aaron --- On Wed, 12/7/11, Bulborum Botanicum <bulborum@gmail.com> wrote: From: Bulborum Botanicum <bulborum@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] Polygonatum To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 11:12 PM I have Polygonatum odoratum RGBB for you LN IJmuiden Netherland I still don't know what the correct name is Is the Asian one true named or the European one the true one and is the Dutch one (the only one growing in the dunes) an other ssp. or var. Roland 2011/12/7 aaron floden <aaron_floden@yahoo.com>: > > It has been a while since I last asked if anyone was growing documented origin Polygonatum. So, I ask now if anyone has plants with provenance and they are willing to trade I am more than happy to discuss possible trades. Any Hinkley collections would be superb (except DJHC600, falcatum, and lasianthum which I have). Chris Chadwell collections from the previous decade, Jurasek, etc. > > There are some species I am willing to accept without provenance, but those are few (and really only applies to species I don't currently have!). > > Also, if anyone has any they want identified send me an image, in flower, with some information about the rhizome, flower size, and if possible details of the flower morphology. The latter is not always necessary except in those verticillate taxa of SW China. > > Aaron Floden > Knoxville, Tennessee > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ -- R de Boer La Maugardiere 1 F 27260 EPAIGNES FRANCE Phone./Fax 0033-232-576-204 Email: bulborum@gmail.com