Dear Alberto, Gene and all, I am getting quite an education about aquatic species of Crinum - a totally new window in the Crinum world. Yes, there is a C. thaianum and that is the proper name. It comes only from a small river area in S. Thailand. But there are three more species (at least) of aquatic Crinum. C. calamistratum which is pictured on the wiki and cultivated by at least one PBS member: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… C. natans also on our wiki at http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… and C. aquatica which is pictured at various web sites. Are there more? All of these from Africa and Asia are obligate aquatics and have lovely Crinum like flowers. I had no idea these existed. Learn something new from PBS all the time. Thanks to all and best. Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +