pbs Digest, Vol 89, Issue 8

Chaker, Anne-Marie Anne-Marie.Chaker@wsj.com
Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:12:44 PDT
    Hi, all.
    For a story I'm writing on moon gardens...all-white, fragrant gardens meant to be enjoyed in the evening...I'm looking for folks to talk to. Do any of you have such a garden?
    Thanks so much--
    Anne Marie
    amc@wsj.com

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    Today's Topics:

       1. Re: Crinum in MO - replies almost OT (Dell Sherk)
       2. Re: Agapanthus (hardy) (Knisely, Jonathan)
       3. Re: was:  Re:  Crinum in MO;  now: Agapanthus in Connecticut
          (pelarg@aol.com)
       4. Codonopsis ID (J. Agoston)
       5. Re: Crinum in MO - replies almost OT (J.E. Shields)
       6. Re: Codonopsis ID (Hafsteinn Hafli?ason)
       7. Re: Hardy Agapanthus and Clivia (Tony Avent)


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    Message: 1
    Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 17:15:59 -0400
    From: "Dell Sherk" <ds429@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum in MO - replies almost OT
    To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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    I have two different crinums blooming right now (they are not planted out
    but are in large pots outside for the summer. One is definitely?
    Bulbispermum. The other might be variabile. I'll try to get photos before
    the 90 degree days get them. The one that I think might be variabile has
    stripes much like the bulbispermum but especially in bud the stripes are
    almost greenish brown. They both have the "foetid" smell that I have noticed
    with other bulbispermums. I'll get pics tomorrow.

    Dell

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    On Behalf Of J.E. Shields
    Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:43 AM
    To: Pacific Bulb Society
    Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum in MO - replies

    Hi Jim W. et al.,

    My bulbispermum growing next to the greenhouse wall have had volunteers
    seedlings come up and bloom right up against the wall.  They are definitely
    getting heat through the greenhouse wall (concrete block) in winter.

    Tony Avent is making the selection from a batch of seedlings or seeds of
    [variabile x bulbispermum] that I sent him some years back.  We'll see what
    he selects when they get into his catalog.  He sent me a couple pictures
    that I really liked!

    Variabile opens pale pink but darkens quickly to have broad red band on the
    tepals.  The umbel in full bloom has both pale pink and deep red
    coloration, for a really nice bicolor effect from a distance.  Variabile
    blooms in August-October, long after bulbispermum has usually finished
    flowering.  If I can get organized in September, I'll pollinate my Crinum
    variabile plants and send some seed to the PBS BX.  (That is still a
    sizeable "if.")  I think that variabile is actually hardier to cold than
    bulbispermum or x-powellii.

    Pictures of Crinum variabile at:
    http://shieldsgardens.com/amaryllids/Crinum.html/  but the flower
    pictured is not the reddest of my plants.  C. variabile is a lower-growing
    plant than bulbispermum, so I don't expect the [variabile x bulbispermum]
    plants to get as big as bulbispermum can. To cross variabile with
    bulbispermum, you'll have to store the pollen of one of the parents till
    the other one blooms.  See:  http://www.shieldsgardens.com/info/Pollen.html

    Jim Shields





    At 09:17 AM 6/5/2010 -0500, you wrote:
    >Dear All,
    >         David and Jim S make two good points.
    >
    >         Planting depth -  My comments about hardy Crinum refer JUST
    >to these two major types - x powellii and bulbispermum. The genus is
    >large and has an array of cultivation needs.  I have seen plenty of
    >tropical Crinums grow with their bulbs fully exposed on the ground,
    >but these do not grow in MO or other cold climates.
    >
    >         Jim S. emphasized my point that young (small) bulbispermum
    >seedlings do not do survive winter without protection. Give them two
    >winters care and then plant out. I start mine in 4-6 inch community
    >pots  and gradually advance to single plants in deep pots about 5 in
    >across and up to one foot deep. These are wintered in a frost free
    >greenhouse.
    >
    >         In the garden C. bulbispermum produces copious seed, but I
    >cannot recall ever seeing a self sown seedling. The winter simply
    >kills them off.
    >
    >         Now a Q for Jim S. Since I've never tried any of these
    >bulbispermum x varaible  or straight variable, can you name a few you
    >like best?  I could be tempted ( pictures?) and there's always more
    >room to squeeze in a 6 foot plant !! Yikes, what am I thinking?
    >
    >         But to emphasize - plant deep, give them summer heat and sun,
    >protect young plants.
    >
    >                 Enjoy           Jim W.
    >
    >
    >
    >ps I just look at the PBS wiki and there's no picture of C. variable
    >in flower and no note about hardiness.
    >
    >
    >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    bile
    >
    >         We need to add some tempting pix!!
    >
    >         and the Crinum hybrid page has no mention of variable hybrids
    >to tempt either.
    >
    >         http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    >
    >
    >   I urge readers to check them all out.  There's nice pix of xpowellii
    alba
    >
    >
    >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    owelliiAlbum
    >
    >         and typical x powellii
    >
    >
    >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    powelliiRoseum
    >
    >         and many bulbispermum
    >
    >
    >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    permum
    >--
    >Dr. James W. Waddick
    >8871 NW Brostrom Rd.
    >Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
    >USA
    >Ph.    816-746-1949
    >Zone 5 Record low -23F
    >         Summer 100F +
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    Message: 2
    Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 19:04:17 -0400
    From: "Knisely, Jonathan" <jonathan.knisely@yale.edu>
    Subject: Re: [pbs] Agapanthus (hardy)
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    I tried a simple Google search using the terms 'Agapanthus' and 'Hardy' and found that High Country Gardens, of Santa Fe, New Mexico has a blue selection that they claim may be hardy to USDA 5b, and hardy from USDA 6-9.

    http://highcountrygardens.com/catalog/product/…

    They claim USDA 5 hardiness for a white selection which was identified as a chance seedling in Michigan

    http://highcountrygardens.com/catalog/product/…

    Jonathan Knisely
    New Haven, CT
    USDA 6a


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    Message: 3
    Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 22:26:29 -0400
    From: pelarg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: [pbs] was:  Re:  Crinum in MO;  now: Agapanthus in
        Connecticut
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    I looked thru my blog and I found a pic of the agapanthus in bloom that I got from Ellen's nursery (fourth post down on Jan 2, 2009).  It is right against a street curb, and in the photo some rather rambunctious Gladiolus papilio leaves are flopping over the tather small growing agapanthus, though I really thinned out the glads last fall and again this spring.  Its growing again, better than ever, but has not yet bloomed.  I also have another summer growing agapanthus, much larger, that I collected as a small non blooming plant not far from Pretoria (near Bronkhorstspruit) in the early 90's.  I think it is A. caulescens, and it usually blooms each year, though I have had to step up its pot size a few times.  I dry it off and keep it in a cool hallway for the winter, though it tends to resprout earlier (March)  than I would like.  It currently has four spikes on it, which should open in a few weeks.  I've not tried it outdoors, but when it flowers it does set seed, so maybe I
     will grow some extras and try them outside.  I don't think it needs anything special to flower, other than a dry and reasonably cool period.  I also am growing a few others, A coddii (from refrigerated seed ex Kirstenbosch), some Headbourne hybrids from exchange seed, a small/mini growing apparently evergreen type from a local nursery (reluctant to bloom again thus far), and a couple from Brent and Becky's which did not bloom their first year, but might this year or next.  All of these are in pots, all but the mini one are deciduous and dried off for winter storage.
    I have a bunch of underpotted long suffering crinums I got from ebay as a mix a few years ago, I have no idea what they are, though I'm guessing x powellii, so now I am inspired to plant them out from all these recent posts.  I really can't give them the premium sunny spots in their pots, but I can give them great sun in the slope garden at school, especially as it is doubling in size thanks to my industrious AP bio students, who have recently perfected the art of ripping/rolling up turf, and myself (though I really felt my age last Fri as I planted in the -very-hot sun after classes were over).  Digging deep holes, however, is not fun, since when they last did construction in that part of the school apparently the crew dumped a lot of gravel, grey sand/grit (for making concrete?), occasional large rocks, and various plastic bottles and cups (yep, styrofoam and clear plastic bottles are evidently not biodegradable, at least on a reasonable time scale), and metal objects under
      the turf. Guess I'll bring them in and have the kids plant them next week before school lets out.
    Ernie DeMarie Tuckahoe NY Z6/7
    plantblog: http://geraniosgarden.blogspot.com/







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    From: Ellen Hornig <hornig@earthlink.net>
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    Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 8:25 pm
    Subject: Re: [pbs] was: Re: Crinum in MO; now: Agapanthus in Connecticut


    It (Seneca Hill Perennials) isn't quite my former nursery, because we'll
    ertainly be selling for the next year (write me at <hornig@earthlink.net> to be
    ut on the mailing list - limited selection, rudimentary packing,
    icro-wholesale only, i.e. 6s and 12s and a 1-flat minimum). After that, I
    hink, probably not.
    But on to agapanthus.  Because of our wonderful snow cover here in Oswego NY, I
    row several A. campanulatus hybrids, plus the species A. campanulatus ssp
    atens, in the open garden without protection.  All the plants I grow bloom
    reely.  The cultivars include A. campanulatus 'Mooreanus' (what we sold as
    old Wayside Gardens clone" for years, until Wesley Whiteside, our original
    ource, unearthed a Wayside catalog from the 60s and discovered it was
    riginally distributed as 'Mooreanus', which is described elsewhere as a
    election of A. campanulatus ssp patens), Agapanthus 'Prolific White' (probably
     campanulatus hybrid, and the name is misapplied because it already belongs, I
    elieve, to an A. africanus selection), A. 'Prolific Blue' (same heritage, same
    omenclatural problem), and A. 'Bressingham Blue'.  I would describe all of them
    s "thriving" rather than merely surviving.  This year David Salman sent me
    lants of a hardy white campanulatus type that I look forward to trying (sorry -
    oo lazy to run down the hill to check the name, but I believe he got it from
    rrowhead Alpines, and it's on the High Country Gardens website).
    On a related (sort of) note, Ed Bowen's marvelous eucomis hybrid 'Rhode Island
    ed' (E. 'Sparkling Burgundy' x E. pallidiflora ssp pole-evansii, with the
    atter as pod parent) survived last winter in the open garden (3/3), much to  my
    urprise.  I'll be interested to see how it performs in the longer run.  It's a
    orgeous plant.  I just sowed a bunch of seeds from it (selfed) - will be fun to
    ee what develops.
    Ellen

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    Subject: Re: [pbs] was:  Re:  Crinum in MO;  now: Agapanthus in Connecticut


    An agapanthus from Ellen Hornig's former retail nursery, an old clone from
    ayside Gardens, likely a cultivar of A. campanulatus, has survived here in
    uckahoe NY for at least four years.  It is much smaller than the evergreen
    onsters in California.  It blooms reliably, is totally deciduous, and slowly
    he clump gets larger.  Does not produce seed, thus far.
    Ernie DeMarie
    Where I am excitedly awaiting the opening of the first flowers on a Melianthus
    verwintered against a wall (got thru 2 winters so far) at my school in
    happaqua NY.  Also happy to see Senecio coronatus from S Africa did not in fact
    ie out, its little leaves are emerging nearby from three plants.
    plantblog: http://geraniosgarden.blogspot.com/


    Ellen Hornig
    eneca Hill Perennials
    712 Co. Rt. 57
    swego NY 13126
    hone: 315-342-5915
    ax: 315-342-5573
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    Message: 4
    Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:17:08 +0200
    From: "J. Agoston" <agoston.janos123@gmail.com>
    Subject: [pbs] Codonopsis ID
    To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
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    Dear all,

    I have waited 7 years for this! Today my first, one and only Codonopsis
    started to bloom. I received the seeds a without epitheton. Can somebody
    help with the ID, please?

    The link:
    http://picasaweb.google.hu/agoston.janos123/…

    thank you,
    Jan
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    Message: 5
    Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 07:43:19 -0400
    From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields@indy.net>
    Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum in MO - replies almost OT
    To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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    Dell,

    I should probably wait for the photos, but I can say that I've never had C.
    variabile bloom before the end of July at the earliest here.  On the other
    hand, mine are all in the ground.

    Be sure to photograph the profile and the back side of the flowers!

    Jim Shields


    At 05:15 PM 6/5/2010 -0400, you wrote:
    >I have two different crinums blooming right now (they are not planted out
    >but are in large pots outside for the summer. One is definitely?
    >Bulbispermum. The other might be variabile. I'll try to get photos before
    >the 90 degree days get them. The one that I think might be variabile has
    >stripes much like the bulbispermum but especially in bud the stripes are
    >almost greenish brown. They both have the "foetid" smell that I have noticed
    >with other bulbispermums. I'll get pics tomorrow.
    >
    >Dell
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]
    >On Behalf Of J.E. Shields
    >Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:43 AM
    >To: Pacific Bulb Society
    >Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum in MO - replies
    >
    >Hi Jim W. et al.,
    >
    >My bulbispermum growing next to the greenhouse wall have had volunteers
    >seedlings come up and bloom right up against the wall.  They are definitely
    >getting heat through the greenhouse wall (concrete block) in winter.
    >
    >Tony Avent is making the selection from a batch of seedlings or seeds of
    >[variabile x bulbispermum] that I sent him some years back.  We'll see what
    >he selects when they get into his catalog.  He sent me a couple pictures
    >that I really liked!
    >
    >Variabile opens pale pink but darkens quickly to have broad red band on the
    >tepals.  The umbel in full bloom has both pale pink and deep red
    >coloration, for a really nice bicolor effect from a distance.  Variabile
    >blooms in August-October, long after bulbispermum has usually finished
    >flowering.  If I can get organized in September, I'll pollinate my Crinum
    >variabile plants and send some seed to the PBS BX.  (That is still a
    >sizeable "if.")  I think that variabile is actually hardier to cold than
    >bulbispermum or x-powellii.
    >
    >Pictures of Crinum variabile at:
    >http://shieldsgardens.com/amaryllids/Crinum.html/  but the flower
    >pictured is not the reddest of my plants.  C. variabile is a lower-growing
    >plant than bulbispermum, so I don't expect the [variabile x bulbispermum]
    >plants to get as big as bulbispermum can. To cross variabile with
    >bulbispermum, you'll have to store the pollen of one of the parents till
    >the other one blooms.  See:  http://www.shieldsgardens.com/info/Pollen.html
    >
    >Jim Shields
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >At 09:17 AM 6/5/2010 -0500, you wrote:
    > >Dear All,
    > >         David and Jim S make two good points.
    > >
    > >         Planting depth -  My comments about hardy Crinum refer JUST
    > >to these two major types - x powellii and bulbispermum. The genus is
    > >large and has an array of cultivation needs.  I have seen plenty of
    > >tropical Crinums grow with their bulbs fully exposed on the ground,
    > >but these do not grow in MO or other cold climates.
    > >
    > >         Jim S. emphasized my point that young (small) bulbispermum
    > >seedlings do not do survive winter without protection. Give them two
    > >winters care and then plant out. I start mine in 4-6 inch community
    > >pots  and gradually advance to single plants in deep pots about 5 in
    > >across and up to one foot deep. These are wintered in a frost free
    > >greenhouse.
    > >
    > >         In the garden C. bulbispermum produces copious seed, but I
    > >cannot recall ever seeing a self sown seedling. The winter simply
    > >kills them off.
    > >
    > >         Now a Q for Jim S. Since I've never tried any of these
    > >bulbispermum x varaible  or straight variable, can you name a few you
    > >like best?  I could be tempted ( pictures?) and there's always more
    > >room to squeeze in a 6 foot plant !! Yikes, what am I thinking?
    > >
    > >         But to emphasize - plant deep, give them summer heat and sun,
    > >protect young plants.
    > >
    > >                 Enjoy           Jim W.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >ps I just look at the PBS wiki and there's no picture of C. variable
    > >in flower and no note about hardiness.
    > >
    > >
    > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    >bile
    > >
    > >         We need to add some tempting pix!!
    > >
    > >         and the Crinum hybrid page has no mention of variable hybrids
    > >to tempt either.
    > >
    > >         http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    > >
    > >
    > >   I urge readers to check them all out.  There's nice pix of xpowellii
    >alba
    > >
    > >
    > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    >owelliiAlbum
    > >
    > >         and typical x powellii
    > >
    > >
    > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    >powelliiRoseum
    > >
    > >         and many bulbispermum
    > >
    > >
    > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
    >permum
    > >--
    > >Dr. James W. Waddick
    > >8871 NW Brostrom Rd.
    > >Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
    > >USA
    > >Ph.    816-746-1949
    > >Zone 5 Record low -23F
    > >         Summer 100F +
    > >
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    >
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    >P.O. Box 92              WWW:    http://www.shieldsgardens.com/
    >Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA
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    Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA
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    Message: 6
    Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:47:27 -0000
    From: Hafsteinn Hafli?ason <hortice@emax.is>
    Subject: Re: [pbs] Codonopsis ID
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    Hello Jan!

    Seems to be - or a lot like - Codonopsis clematidea. Can it be so?

    Smelly flowers?

    Quite commonly grown in icelandic gardens, - mainly in the north.
    Does well where - and when - it is sheltered by snow-cover during winters.

    Thrives in light soil mixed with a lot of pumice - prefers dry places like
    stony hills or scree beds.

    Central-Asian origin. Campanulaceae.

    Best wishes,

    Hafsteinn Hafl.




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    From: "J. Agoston" <agoston.janos123@gmail.com>
    To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
    Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:17 AM
    Subject: [pbs] Codonopsis ID


    Dear all,

    I have waited 7 years for this! Today my first, one and only Codonopsis
    started to bloom. I received the seeds a without epitheton. Can somebody
    help with the ID, please?

    The link:
    http://picasaweb.google.hu/agoston.janos123/…

    thank you,
    Jan
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    Message: 7
    Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:29:08 -0400
    From: "Tony Avent" <tony@plantdelights.com>
    Subject: Re: [pbs] Hardy Agapanthus and Clivia
    To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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    Hi folks:

    The hardy white agapanthus was selected by plantsman John of the former H&H
    Botanicals in Michigan.  John had planted a batch of seedling out for summer
    bedding and noticed that one came back for several years.  We got our plants
    from John in 2000, long before he went out of business.  For those who want
    to read the sad saga or H&H Botanicals, go to their new website at
    http://bsnursery.com/message.html

    While we're talking about hardy geophytes, how about Clivia gardenii.  We
    grew this from seed and have had it in the ground for 5 years with no
    problems and no protection or winter mulch.  During this time, the lowest
    temps that it has seen are probably 8F with no snow.  Has anyone else tried
    this outdoors?

    Tony Avent
    Plant Delights Nursery @
    Juniper Level Botanic Garden
    9241 Sauls Road
    Raleigh, North Carolina  27603  USA
    Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
    Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
    USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
    email tony@plantdelights.com
    website  http://www.plantdelights.com/
    phone 919 772-4794
    fax  919 772-4752
    "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three
    times" - Avent

    -----Original Message-----
    From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]
    On Behalf Of Matt Mattus
    Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 4:50 PM
    To: Pacific Bulb Society
    Subject: Re: [pbs] Agapanthus

    This subject comes up so often, but out dozen or so cultivars of Agapanthus,
    never bloomed well until we build our cold greenhouse, where they get moved
    each autumn before heavy frost. Inside, the temperatures on the foundation
    where  the tubs are kept, reach near 0 C or 32 Degrees F. In spring, they
    are relocated outside in mid-May, and all bloom at exactly the same time,
    near July 1.
    I have noticed that the quantity of buds decreases as pots become full, and
    on the years that I divide the large tubs, there are a fewer flower stems,
    which I assume is due to the shock of having their root ball sliced into
    quarters.
    It is the following year when I get dozens of stems, and the pot is still
    not full of roots yet.

    The same goes for Clivia. Our collection of Cliva ( about 200 plants from
    Nakamura in Japan) used to fuss and bloom off schedule until we moved them
    all into the cold greenhouse. In there, they never go dry, rather, they
    respond I believe to temperature and day length ( much like me). Now, they
    all bloom at exactly the same time, which seems to change each year, but
    they all bloom together. Since they are under the benches they get watered
    all winter, so it's not about being dry as much as temperature and light
    changes, I believe.
    The Agapanthus, seem to react in very much the same way, except with blooms
    during the summer. Temperature and day length factors in to the 'blooming
    equation' clearly.

    Matt Mattus
    Worcester, MA
    Zone 5/5b

    On 6/5/10 10:14 AM, "Linda Foulis" <lmf@beautifulblooms.ab.ca> wrote:

    > Good morning all,
    > I have Agapanthus africanus albidus which I started from seed back in
    2005.
    > It has only bloomed once, if I remember correctly back about 2007 or so.
    It
    > is quite
    >
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