> David, I'm not sure what does well in your specific climate, >but here they revel in summer heat ( 94 degrees today!). Perhaps >someone with experience closer to him can reply. x powelii survives here, flowers, forms offsets - but not impressive. Ellen Bosanquet, leaves appearing now and on past form it might form a flower by the end of November, in time for the first frosts. I'm glad to see all the advice to plant crinum deep. There's another string of advice on the web which says plant them with the tops of the bulbs above ground, and in my experience temperatures just below zero will then kill them. Agapanthus - old wisdom, which I find true, roots have to be confined if they're to flower. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net/ post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941