Hi all, I forgot about my own picture of Crinum variabile! The one Jim W. cited (go to http://shieldsgardens.com/Blogs/Garden/… then scroll down) shows the red color on the older flowers contrasting nicely with the nearly white new flowers. I would think it reasonable to try any hybrid of C. variabile for cold hardiness, following the rules laid down by Jim W. I have not tried any of Dave Lehmiller's Crinum variabile hybrids so far, but maybe I should. I think we should try 'White Queen' for hardiness as well. I need to separate the offsets from my potted 'White Queen' and grow them on to a decent bulb size. Any more suggestions for cold-hardy crinums? Would anyone trade me an offset of 'Super Ellen' fror something? Jim Shields At 11:44 AM 6/5/2010 -0500, you wrote: >Dear Friends, > Jim S got me curious so I went to the web and found a bit >more info and pix. > > The first is from Jim's own garden > http://shieldsgardens.com/Blogs/Garden/… > > and a couple of hybrids involving this species: > > 'Peyton's Place' > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > 'Strictly Feminine' > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > Are either of these hardy ? Jim S. have you tried these? > > Best Jim W. >-- >Dr. James W. Waddick >8871 NW Brostrom Rd. >Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 >USA >Ph. 816-746-1949 >Zone 5 Record low -23F > Summer 100F + ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA