Wow, it's a small world, Dennis. Many years ago, when Meadowview was just beginning to expand its reach outside of the immediate Caroline County, Va. area, they started to show up at the twice a year plant sales at Green Spring Park (see below) in Annandale Virginia, about an hour or two north of their home base. For several seasons I bought wonderful pitcher plants from them. Their booth was always surrounded by wide-eyed gardeners making a first acquaintance with these astonishing plants. About their prices: yes, the prices shown are high, but read the fine print: if I’m reading this correctly, if you become a sponsor/member of Meadowview, you get a 50% discount. Since the membership costs only $25, do the math - it's a good deal. I’m glad to see that Meadowview has flourished over the years – I had lost track of them. The Green Spring phenomenon itself is pretty amazing. The site itself is a small former residence with a garden designed by early twentieth century designer Beatrix Farrand (it was she who designed the garden for Dumbarton Oaks). The Green Spring site has been developed into a suburban show garden, handsomely maintained and of interest all year. There is a plant sale there, typically twice a year, with vendors who sell an amazing range of plants - a range utterly unpredictable from year to year. This plant sale is like nothing else of the type I've ever seen, a bazaar-like mix of amateur and professional growers offering plants from the most mundane to things of extreme rarity. My now fourteen-year-old Welwitschia came from one of the Green Spring sales in 1997 as a one year old seedling. The sales now don't pack quite the wow factor they did in the early years, partly because some of the shakers and movers behind the sales back then have moved on. But they are still something to look forward to. And during the milder parts of the year, the staff runs a small sale of plants propagated from the Green Spring collection. BTW Dennis, when you asked "is it wrong for a vegetarian human to grow carnivorous plants?" I'm inclined to say that it's OK as long as you don't eat them for their dead animal content. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7, where the garden is still under a foot and a half of snow. My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/