Jacob I have the same problem for my profession (I am a bulb salesman) it is confusing for my (semi hobby)collections I need the correct information I have a lot of discussions with my clients but I think the main solutions is the garden magazins and television programs. They should both use the old and new names so people will learn Roland 2010/4/28 Jacob Knecht <jacobknecht@gmail.com>: > Roland, > > As a horticulturist, scientist and someone who has a fair deal of experience > with the nursery and landscaping trade, I feel that I understand both sides > of this. Whether we like it or not, botanical science serves a greater > focus than that of horticulturists alone. We can chose to ignore it or > benefit from it. Good science does not discriminate based on anthropogenic > thought and it is always in flux. By definition the journey of discovery > will always result in a changed understanding of that which is being > studied. I doubt any taxonomist actually takes pleasure in the confusion > often felt in the marketplace of plants after name changes. > > Jacob > > ---------- > - http://www.flickr.com/photos/morabeza79/sets/ > > > On 28 April 2010 13:39, gentiaan bulborum <bulborum@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes Nhu >> >> partly you are right >> but if you sell Hippeastrum you are getting mad I also sell Amaryllis >> belladonna >> After every day telling dozens of customers if they mean Hippeastrum >> or Amaryllis and in the mean time you are wasting time your college is >> selling >> The same you can say from Pelargonium versus Geranium >> Dendranthema versus Chrysanthemum and so on and so on >> Here is a job for all those garden magazines all around the world >> who constant are using popular and old names >> Of course I am happy with correct Latin names but sometimes >> I think why change a name if anybody knows it under a other name >> what means THE FIRST BOTANIST WAS WRONG Take some more time to do >> the job good or don't change it >> The same for all those botanic gardens sending wrong labelled seeds >> all around the world >> for example for a botanic garden in Holland I got over 500 packets of >> Allium sp. >> over 9 out of 10 from all beautiful names where Allium cyathophorum var. >> farreri >> if you are not sure of a name don't collect it or send it under a >> collection number >> I grow over 1000 species and are desperate looking for reviews >> of bulbous plants very difficult to find >> >> Roland >> >> >> >> 2010/4/28 Nhu Nguyen <xerantheum@gmail.com>: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I share Jane's annoyance with gardeners who have knee-jerking reactions >> to >> > name changes. These changes are made to reflect the latest evidence we >> have >> > regarding the evolutionary biology of organisms. Being able to sequence >> the >> > genetic material of all living organisms provided us with a powerful new >> way >> > to classify them. It is a revolution in science, and with any revolution >> > there are major disruptions that cannot be avoided. Furthermore, these >> > changes are made solely on scientific merits and should not be influenced >> by >> > economics. With that said, there is a little bit of wiggle room for how >> > those changes are made and it is up to the researcher to decide what >> > directions to take. New names are intrinsically linked to old names so >> > technically one can look it up in a database somewhere and still be >> talking >> > about the same organism despite usage of different names. >> > >> > >From the seller's point of view, it is understandable to use a name that >> is >> > best selling. However, it does not take up that much more room to at >> least >> > include the latest synonym in a catalog. This way it is inclusive to >> > everyone who is interested in that plant. I have on several occasions >> bought >> > plants that was labeled with an older name and only to find out that I >> > already have that plant at home under a newer name. >> > >> > Nhu >> > Berkeley, CA >> > -- >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/xerantheum/ >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:00 AM, gentiaan bulborum <bulborum@gmail.com >> >wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> let them think first 10 times before they change a name >> >> Smilacina with a lot of species in Maianthemum with just a few species >> >> Just because his name is mentioned many times >> >> I know the rules but sometimes ???? >> >> >> >> Roland >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > pbs mailing list >> > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> R de Boer >> La Maugardiere 1 >> F 27260 EPAIGNES >> FRANCE >> >> Tel./Fax 0033-232-576-204 >> Email: bulborum@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > -- R de Boer La Maugardiere 1 F 27260 EPAIGNES FRANCE Tel./Fax 0033-232-576-204 Email: bulborum@gmail.com