Hi, I'd just like to say that my experience has been more like Jim Jones experience than Mark McDonough. I sowed both the species and the variety from seeds supplied to a seed exchange. Both germinated well and went on to bloom in a shorter time than I expected. I still have Lilium formosanum in my garden. Whether it is from those original plants or from seeds that got away after it originally bloomed, I can't be sure. It hasn't been invasive and is a nice addition to my garden usually blooming in the fall. I no longer have Lilium formosanum var. pricei. I seem to remember one year there was a taller version of it blooming in a similar spot, but it's not there now and I could be wrong. My conditions are really different than Mark's in Massachusetts however. Mary Sue Mary Sue Ittner California's North Coast Wet mild winters with occasional frost Dry mild summers