Shirley I'm sure there area about as many favorite methods for bulb seed propagation as their are propagators but there are also simple methods that work on the vast majority. For most of the winter growing (e.g., S. African) geophytes, we find that potting in almost any very well draining mix and putting them outside here in the Bay Area results in a high percentage sprout. I plant the seed on surface, press in and cover with a fine gravel-type mix (we use turface). Some will sprout on your windowsill (for example, the Massonia seed I got via PBS 5wks ago are sprouting today on my windowsill. ) but most need the cycling cool nights to come out of dormancy. If in doubt, you can have the fun of experimenting by trying both. The summer growing ones species will do fine on your windowsill. Since you're in our area, drop by sometime to see the results. We literally have hundreds of species from these kinds of methods. I think sprouting the seed is the easiest part; growing them on is more of a challenge. Paul Paul Licht, Director Univ. California Botanical Garden 200 Centennial Drive Berkeley, CA 94720 (510)-643-8999 http://botanicalgarden.berkeley.edu/ pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/> > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Weather (meneice@att.net) > 2. Re: Seed Propagation (meneice@att.net) > 3. Re: Australian Ethnobotany (Shelley GAGE) > 4. PBS wiki (Mary Sue Ittner) > 5. Re: membership payments (marvin ellenbecker) > 6. Biological fungicides/ was weather changes (Mark Mazer) > 7. Re: PBS wiki (Christiaan van Schalkwyk) > 8. culinary onion notes (Jim McKenney) > 9. Re: membership payments (Arnold Trachtenberg) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:07:19 -0800 > From: <meneice@att.net> > Subject: [pbs] Weather > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <4F367118AB1248EF81EE40D64FF410E5@DF5XS5C1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > As any of you who are golfers will probably know, next week is the AT&T > tournament here, so we are preparing for hot, sunny weather (70s), cold, > rainy weather (40s with fog and drizzle), no wind, gale force winds, one > cloudburst, some sleet and/or freezing rain. So far this year we have about > half of our expected rainfall (and all of it, about 18", comes in the winter > months), so are in a drought mode as this is the third year with less than > normal rainfall. Last year we had a deep freeze, for us, in Jan. This year > we set new records for heat - into the 80s - and Feb. has begun with lovely, > warm days in the upper 60s along the coast and abundant sunshine. As you > can see, our weather is quite variable and generally unpredictable in the > long range. So that part has been normal this winter. Temps have been > above normal, so lots of daffodils are blooming and cyclamen. The camellias > are totally confused with some late bloomers in their full glory while some > which usually in bloom in Feb. still have tight buds. > > > > All in all, a most unusual year, but not overly cold nor overly hot - just > strange. > > > > Shirley Meneice, Cal. Central Coast, Zone 9 (or 10 in the more favorable > areas such as mine, about 900' from the coast at an elevation of 125'. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:26:17 -0800 > From: <meneice@att.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Seed Propagation > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <9C35038164A4470A92FEACD683A2F766@DF5XS5C1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dianne, try Google-ing the name of your seed with the word "propagating" in > front of it. You may be overwhelmed with possibilities, depending on the > seed. > Shirley Meneice > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:39:16 +1000 > From: Shelley GAGE <sgage4@eq.edu.au> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Australian Ethnobotany > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <fb9cf598142.498acfe4@eq.edu.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Pam, > Australia has, as you would know, few native bulbous plants but if I can help you with info etc on any of our many and varied plants let me please let me know. I live in South-east Qld and of course we have a wide range of habitats. > Shelley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:42 am > Subject: Re: [pbs] Australian Ethnobotany > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > > >> Pam asked about Australian ethnobotanical information for an >> exhibit >> where she volunteers. >> >> >>> At Boyce Thompson Arboretum where I volunteer, we're talking >>> >> about in an >> >>> Australian Seep exhibit. In studying a little but very >>> >> interesting monograph >> >>> called "Mutooroo," I found the following entries about bulbous >>> plants but would >>> like to pass on the definition of mutooroo found in the book - >>> >> "Aboriginal for >> >>> 'place where we go for food'." The following is verbatim >>> >> and I will thus, not >> >>> use quotes: >>> >>> This book was first published in 1984. I was told that >>> >> its title >> >>> "Mutooroo" is >>> pronounced moo-jer-OOO. Is this correct? Also, >>> >> isn't the correct Crinum name >> >>> pendiculatum? There are also interesting but longer >>> >> entries for Alocasia and >> >>> Calocasia spp. that I'd be glad to share if anyone's interested. >>> >> Pam, there's no such language as "Aboriginal." Australia has >> many >> native languages in more than one family. If you'd like this >> clarified for your exhibit, I can track down some more rigorous >> information for you. The languages of Australia, most of which >> are >> extinct or nearing extinction (thanks in part to colonial >> efforts to >> separate children from their cultures), have been relatively >> well documented. >> >> Jane McGary >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:47:27 -0800 > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > Subject: [pbs] PBS wiki > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20090204165028.036887e8@mail.mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > The good news is that the PBS wiki is back online. There are a few things > not working as well as they did before (some names are shown without a > space between them for example), but we think we can live with some of > these things in the meantime. You can still email me if you find a problem. > The bad news is that we will need to convert our wiki to different software > that is being updated and supported. I haven't been able to find anything > in this category that using the syntax that our wiki uses. So this will > involve not only changes in how the pbs wiki looks, but also how to use it. > When we figure out what software to select, we may freeze the wiki and no > longer add to it until it is reinvented in a new form. So if you have been > procrastinating adding something, you better add it quickly since once we > get started on the changes it could be a very long time before new > information can be added. > > A few of you have offered to help with this arduous task and I'm saving all > the names and what you are willing to do and if we can use you once we > figure out how to do this, I'll contact you. Others willing to help can > email me privately. > > Mary Sue > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:40:44 -0800 (PST) > From: marvin ellenbecker <mellenbe@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] membership payments > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <512450.7874.qm@web82007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Arnold, > I wanted to pay my dues by check but did not see where the dues should be sent. Can you provide me with the address. > Thanks, > Marvin Ellenbecker > mellenbe@pacbell.net > > > > > <style type="text/css"></style> > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:03:18 PM > Subject: [pbs] membership payments > > There has been a flurry of activity following Dell's note on 2009 dues. > > I would ask that if you pay via PayPal indicate in the 'comment section' > that this is for 2009 dues. > > If you pay via check write in the memo section '2009 dues'. > > Thank you for supporting the Pacific Bulb Society. > > Arnold Trachtenberg > Treasurer PBS > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:02:05 -0500 (EST) > From: Mark Mazer <markmazerandfm13@earthlink.net> > Subject: [pbs] Biological fungicides/ was weather changes > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: > <4344309.1233759725853.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > >> Yep, Mark, that's why I call my garden the fusarium pit during the summer. >> >> Jim McKenney >> > > Does anyone on the list have experience using biological fungicides such as T22 or Plantshield/ > > Jim, want to split an order, its $124 plus shipping for 1.2 lbs? > > Mark Mazer > Hertford, North Carolina USA > > Smidgen of snow, melting fast under sunny skies > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:06:30 +0200 > From: "Christiaan van Schalkwyk" <cvschalkwyk@lantic.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS wiki > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <305698C15018468B969F7163CB7CF2A6@h4l> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Mary-Sue > > I'll put my hand up to help as well, hope you find a suitable solution. > > Christiaan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Sue Ittner" <msittner@mcn.org> > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:47 AM > Subject: [pbs] PBS wiki > > > >> The good news is that the PBS wiki is back online. There are a few things >> not working as well as they did before (some names are shown without a >> space between them for example), but we think we can live with some of >> these things in the meantime. You can still email me if you find a >> problem. >> The bad news is that we will need to convert our wiki to different >> software >> that is being updated and supported. I haven't been able to find anything >> in this category that using the syntax that our wiki uses. So this will >> involve not only changes in how the pbs wiki looks, but also how to use >> it. >> When we figure out what software to select, we may freeze the wiki and no >> longer add to it until it is reinvented in a new form. So if you have been >> procrastinating adding something, you better add it quickly since once we >> get started on the changes it could be a very long time before new >> information can be added. >> >> A few of you have offered to help with this arduous task and I'm saving >> all >> the names and what you are willing to do and if we can use you once we >> figure out how to do this, I'll contact you. Others willing to help can >> email me privately. >> >> Mary Sue >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:36:51 -0500 > From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com> > Subject: [pbs] culinary onion notes > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <000c01c9879f$31cfedb0$2f01a8c0@Library> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Winters here in zone 7 Maryland can be very cold, but they are also very > bright; and while there is not much blooming in the garden, the stack of > seed catalogs I have is in full bloom. > > I depend on these seed catalogs to keep me up to date with the sometimes > unfamiliar items I see in the grocery store (the ever expanding range of > Asian greens in particular). Now that I?ve typed that word grocery I should > point out that I don?t shop at what are literally grocery stores; I shop at > typical food stores. The true grocery store almost became extinct, but > exists now in the guise of those buying clubs that sell everything in > month-size units. > > The better seed catalogs also often give me a heads-up on changes in > nomenclature. This week I?ve had a thing for onions. We eat a lot of onions > here. The interrelationships of the culinary onions are still being worked > out, and it?s an intriguing story. > > > Shallots, which were generally called Allium ascalonicum when I was a kid, > then they went into a phase where they were called Allium cepa Aggregatum > Group or something like that. Now there seems to be a trend among some to > treat them as A. cepa variants and let it go at that. Because many of what > are sold as shallots now are of hybrid origin (hybrid in the sense onion x > shallot), maybe this makes sense. > > I was reading the Rix and Phillips Random House Book of Vegetables where I > encountered the name Allium oschaninii in a list of wild Allium which might > have contributed to the ancestry of the cultivated Allium cepa (itself > unknown as a wild plant). > > Later I checked out the wikipedia account of shallot and was very surprised > to find this: the author of that account assigns the French gray shallot > (but not other shallots) to Allium oschaninii. Those who know their onions > have long praised the French gray as the best of the shallots. > > > Jim McKenney > jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com > Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871? North, 77.09829? West, USDA zone > 7, where it's cold and the temperature will probably not go above freezing > today: early snowdrops are hunkered down. > My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ > BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ > > Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS > Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ > > Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/ > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:47:19 -0500 > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] membership payments > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <498AFBF7.7080106@nj.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Marvin: > > You can send a check to me or Patty Colville, addresses below. If you > want to use PayPal send to my email address and make a note in he memo > section that it is for 2009 dues. > > Arnold Trachtenberg > 140 Lakeview Avenue > Leonia, NJ 07605 > > Patty Colville > 1555 Washburn Avenue > Pasadena, CA 91105 > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 11 > *********************************** > >