Along this, have you ever heard of Jane Goodall selling chimpanzee meat or Diane Fossey trading gorilla skins to fund their research? Or to help preserve "these species from extinction". This is not serious. Reputable bulb seed tradespeople like the Saunders or the McMasters among others state clearly that they DO NO SELL seed of rare or endangered species. Alberto et al This is something that I just have to say something about as I absolutely and totally disagree with it. To make this sort of comparison is highly emotive and not one I think should occur. Now it would be wonderful if we lived in a world were we could say that part is endangered lets put it aside and protect all of its flora and fauna. There are places like that however they are owned or donated to the state or run by dedicated individuals. The world in which I live is working to claim back some of this lost land to provide nature corridors - however where does the material come from that was once there. Some of it has come from the back yards and collections of private individuals that gave it a value or decided the place that it had could be left alone until required. What about development that is going ahead regardless of what is in its way? what of the trashed plant life there? Leave it as it is against the will an individual who thinks it is wrong to collect and propagate rare and endangered plants? In Australia we have recently released the work of people who gave a plant a commercial value it is the Wollemi Pine only five individuals were left in the wild now there are millions of them, because the marketing and propagation were handled commercially. If they had been left on their own there would in all probability still be only five or less. Should this not have happened as it gave a commercial value to an extremely endangered and almost lost ancient tree? In short, in a commercial world a commercial value is more powerful than any intrinsic value we place on it no matter how valid or deserving. I agree that we should not collect any material that can be protected and left in its wild habitat however it can be helped and collecting a reasonable amount of seed that is sustainable can only benefit any endangered and rare plant. I do not condone raping the landscape for plants or to leave the landscape any worse than they way it was found however help individ uals that are prepared to rescue otherwise doomed, even if this is by natural attrition, by giving them some funds and value to their work so they may continue as they have given us such things that may have been lost forever. A lot of what is on the people's seed list that has been mentioned may be in your view common but there is no store I can walk into and buy it most of it over the counter and they are the only source of some in the world - are they to "something common"? No mention has been made of how or where any of the Chilean material is collected - I would like to know this before I cast my approval, disapproval or otherwise. Kind Regards and Best WishesRon ReddingHervey BayAustralia _________________________________________________________________ Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx/…