Mary Sue, I would say that Arnold’s image might be Chionodoxa sardensis (Scilla sardensis) as I know it. As I grow it, this species has smaller flowers and lacks the white at the base of the tepals. The color varies with the age of the flower and the temperature. Flowers which have developed in cold conditions are a very rich dark blue as in Scilla sibirica and Tecophilaea. But the color quickly fades to the color shown in Arnold’s image. Arnold, where do the flowers in your image fall in the overall size range of glories of the snow? Rightly or wrongly, I rely on the smaller flower size, more intense color and lack of a white eye to distinguish this species from the others. Plants received years ago under the name Ch. gigantea were distinct: the flowers were very few per stem and bigger than those of any other sorts I know. They also had the poorest color of the group – lots of white and less intense blue. Also, when in bloom one of the flowers would generally open skyward. In my garden these various plants were originally planted in separated clumps, but over the years I suspect that there has been a lot of hybridization. There are also hundreds if not thousands of plants growing in the lawns here; they don’t make much of a show however because they are generally well scattered. These plants in the lawn came under the name Ch, luciliae years ago, just as the name Ch. forbesii was beginning to appear in the popular literature and some catalogs. One way which I am using to try to get a sense of what’s what is to “retro-fit” the names. Here ‘s what I mean. If it’s true that the cultivar ‘Pink Giant’ is a form of Ch. forbesii (or Scilla forbesii), then I’m assuming that the ones in the garden which most closely resemble it are the same species. ‘Pink Giant’ by the way is an odd color as I have it here. When the flowers first began to open, they reminded me very much of Lycoris sprengeri: a sort of purplish pink with bright blue patches. Now that the flowers have been open for a few days, they remind me of certain garden hyacinths (‘Amethyst’ and ‘Pink Pearl’ come to mind). It’s an interesting color, but it’s not what I think of as pink. The pink form of Scilla bifolia is also blooming now. In bud and in cool weather, this is definitely a soft pink. But it quickly matures to white with only the vaguest hint of pink. It’s a pretty little plant. And now I remember something I’ve mentioned in the past but it fits into this discussion. The first time I received bulbs under the name Chionodoxa sardensis over forty years ago, they turned out to be Scilla bifolia when they bloomed. I held that against them for a few years, but I eventually came to realize that they are a fine little bulb in their own right. They not only naturalize here but they cross with the glories of the snow. The color of Scilla bifolia is a good dark blue, but it lacks the intensity and sparkle of Scilla sardensis. Also in the wings and ready to come on stage: one received as Chionodoxa ‘Blue Giant’. I have no idea what this is yet. By the way, I really like the image Roger posted of little blue things. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7 My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/