The replies in the thread "Cardwell lily" remind me of a possibly relevant experience I had with Ipheion sellowianum. (That's not the accepted name these days, but you guys know what I mean; little yellow ipheionish thingy.) I'd always overwintered it in a covered coldframe, and it came through very nicely year after year, apparently fully hardy if protected from winter wet. About 10 years ago, it was exposed to considerably more winter cold than usual. I don't remember if it was a harder than normal freeze or I forgot to shelter it. After that it went completely dormant. Every spring I would check and there would be sound bulbs in the pot, but no signs of life. The smaller bulbs faded away, but the larger ones the size of a pea just sat there, not dead but hardly living. At some point, someone here on the PBS mailing list mentioned that some amaryllids have a fairly high heat requirement, so one spring I took the pot of dormant bulbs and put it just inside a glass patio door facing south, sitting in the full sun with the soil getting considerably warmer than it would out of doors. This was followed quite soon by signs of growth and it's continued to grow actively ever since. My interpretation of this series of events is that the plant went into a very deep dormancy because of the severe cold it experienced, and this dormancy could only be broken by considerable warmth. From an evolutionary point of view, it means that Ipheion sellowianum (native to summer-hot Japan) goes dormant during cold winters and doesn't resume growth until the weather is well and truly warm. It can't be fooled by mild spells during the cold months. Some of the replies in the "Cardwell lily" thread suggested a similar situation: being a true tropical, if it gets too cold, it will be hard to awaken from the resultant dormancy, and lots of heat may be the trick. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada "Outside of dogs, books are man's best friend; inside dogs, it's too dark to read." -----Groucho Marx