Hi Gang, Jay Yourch does lovely writing, about many topics. Marcelle Sheppard and I enjoy reading his posts. Recently Jay wrote about Crinum "Shreck," the wonderful crinum that came from the Shreck family. I don't know if it is the same as Crinum x 'Carol Abbot', and Jay nicely touches on this mystery. LINK: Crinum 'Shreck' (Jay pseudonym is crinumaniac) http://stevesplantsandrants.blogspot.com/2007/05/… Marcelle and I are determined to "keep up with Jay." (a very fun and friendly competition) Check our article on Crinums. LINK: Crinums are the Hot, New Garden Plant http://botanicgardenofhouston.org/djs/crinum.html/ The problem with writing about crinums is that people ask where to obtain them. Crinums are a bit pricey and not offered on every corner. I listed some possible mailorder sources, but I wonder if I've missed some vendors. Drop me a note if you can recommend other crinum sources to add to my list in the article. Cordially, Joe Shaw C. x powellii has 10 scapes, all topped with pale, flimsy, flowers. It is time to rent a tractor and pull that particular clone out of the ground. Even with 10 scapes it is barely noticeable in the garden. Give me Shreck any day.