Hi, We've had discussions of Neomarica in the past and Jim Waddick had raised the question about the difference between N. gracilis and N. northiana. He had an asterisk on one of his posts indicating the walking Iris is a term used for one or both of these and it's not clear which. There was a request to make a wiki page for this genus and since I don't grow it I asked for help with it. Tarcísio Eduardo Raduenz was kind enough to send me some pictures of a couple of species and now David Ehrlich has some more pictures to add to the wiki of N. northiana. He has emailed me that my description of N. northiana as yellow is not accurate so I looked at my description on the wiki and for the life of me can't remember where I got the information I added. I often try to add information from our group posts or from those of the group who write me privately or books that I trust, but can't find the reference that led me to write this: "The pedicels of N. northiana barely if at all exceed the enveloping bract; those of N. gracilis are several times as long as this bract. Similarly, the peduncles (the stouter stems connecting the whole flowering business to the scape) of N. gracilis are long and gracile, while those of N. northiana are short, barely long enough to move the inflorescence away from the scape. " So I have taken that description off, but it still leads me to want to know how to tell the two species apart. If you look at Google images it certainly isn't clear. I've added some descriptions I lifted from The World of Iridaceae by Innes, but if would be nice if we could figure out how these two are different. If they are often confused in the trade that pictures on the net are not going to be a good indication of which is which. And many of the pictures just show the flowers and that may not be what we need to look at to tell them apart. David's pictures are good this way as they show more of the plant. One of the things about the wiki that makes it so time consuming for me is my desire for it to be accurate. So I am always happy for corrections and help from others. Anyone have pictures to add of N. gracilis that show not only the flowers, but the bracts and leaves and the whole plant? The Innes book says the leaves of N. gracils have prominent veins and David's pictures of his plants show smooth leaves. But is Innes correct? Help please. Mary Sue