I'm a stealth member of this list. I haven't been able to have a garden for a few years, but I dearly love bulbs and got started in my education in Oregon by people like Jane McGary and Dave Karnstedt. I just wanted to let everyone on the list know what a generous, kind, knowledgeable person Dave was. He was exactly the sort of person I identify with gardening and bulbs: dedicated, devoted and generous. He was in Oregon, as many of you know, to grow bulbs, and he adored daffodils. He's one of the people who helped to birth in me a passion for bulbs and it's a deeply, deeply sad thing to have lost him. He was a great representative of the kinds of people in the PBS group. Sally Bourrie Charlottesville, Virginia