Russell Stafford wrote: "We have offered I. rosenbachiana for several years at what is a ridiculously low price compared to European sources, and have sold virtually none, except for the ones DBG ordered. This is true of all the Junos -- they're wonderful plants and far more growable than alleged, but no one is going to make a living selling them! And yes, they're true I. rosenbachiana, from a source upstream from J. Ruksans." If you would like to see what Russell sends out, check this link to the wiki which shows the plant he sent me in autumn 2005: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 where I think I heard a toad calling earlier this evening. My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/