Dear Dave and all, Thanks. Contrary to more than you might ever.... this just makes me want more. Although I can't grow the earliest paperwhites, I can grow 'Minnow' (with foliage damage from too early sprouts and 'Gernanium' does very well. The "Hoop Petticoats' are a near total loss outdoors, but with minimum protection of a cold frame or cool greenhouse they are very nice. I like the Div 6 suggestions and my fall bulb shopping list will be a bit longer. Thanks for all the info and temptations. Another favorite right now is the late Sid Dubose' "Raspberry Rose' - a wonderful combination of peachy pink and white. "Hopelessly bitten" ? Maybe, but not quite ready to fly 'down under' for a second spring. And I am glad to put in a word for Dave's own daffodil sales (Cascade Daffodils). Ask to get his list when it is available. best Jim W. and Jay thanks for the new pix. I really like 'Goden Echo', a good contrast. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +