There is a good chance I can get some seeds for you, maybe in November. There is a smaller chance that I might be able to get some newly germinated seeds now. But how can I get them to you? Symplocarpus seed does not respond well to dry storage, and when stored moist and cool they turn to pudding. Please respond to me privately if you want to follow up on this. Roger mentioned the west coast skunk cabbage, Lysichiton. Is anyone on the east coast growing this successfully? I have both species in my garden, and they have been there for years, but they are growing very haltingly. And the sprouts often show freeze damage. Neither has bloomed yet (i.e. ever here) . Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryla Pacific Bulb Societynd, USA, USDA zone 7, where tommies are blooming right and left. My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/