Hi Gang, Margie Brown and Lanny Brown live in Vidor, TX, near Marcelle Sheppard. Margie and Marcelle have exchanged friendship, plants, and garden advice for many years. Margie has recently provided me with starts of several different red-leaved Crinum. Two years ago she gave me a variegated C. asiaticum that was still a seed/seedling. Margie is that way, always sharing plants; I think many PBS members will recognize themselves in that description "always sharing plants." Anyway, an east Texas newspaper ran an article about Monarch butterfly migration, and about how Texas gardens can help the butterflies on their way to Mexico for the winter. You can view a photo or two from Margie's garden, but what caught my attention was the estimate that Margie grows about 1,700 types of plants. LINK: Monarch Butterflies, Margie and Lanny's Garden http://beaumontenterprise.com/site/news.cfm/… After I thought about it it I realized the she must grow about at least 1,700 species of plants, or perhaps 2,000. For one thing, Margie has grown many dozens of Marcelle Sheppards's hybrid crinums over the years, to see them perform under different conditions and simply to help provide second homes for some of Marcelle's best. The last time I visited Margie Brown she gave me 8-10 new bulbs, lots of seeds of many types. The time before that she gave me half a dozen hard-to-find or unusual Canna hybrids. The time before that she gave me dozens of Hippeastrum hybrid bulbs for my front yard. LINK2: Margie and Lanny in their Garden http://crinum.iconx.com/html/team/… Cordially, Joe Conroe TX, hoping for a good Monarch butterfly migration.