Dear Dennis and Jim; I have tried this Iris outdoors here before without any luck. Since both of you are in just slightly milder climates, I think I may have missed something. Could you tell us in more detail about how protected the plant is there and any consideration for growing in even more northern climates? Exposure - soil- drainage - winter protection.....etc. Appreciate your suggestions before I try once again. Thanks Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +