Hi, All this talk of Babiana came about because I mentioned that it does beautifully planted in the ground in my coastal Northern California climate where this year it got 70 inches of rain during our winter and where it will be dry it looks like now until fall. When I lived in central California where the days often were hot (but it cooled down at night) it also did well. I watered my summer garden there and the Babianas tolerated this. Interestingly my current batch of thousands are descendants of some I grew from seed when I lived in Stockton. I also grow some species that are in pots nestled in pots in my raised bed. They do fine too as long as we have a little dry weather when they decide to bloom. My experience with South African Irids I tried to change over from the southern hemisphere was that keeping them warm not cold prevented them from starting into growth. It was the cool temps that told them now is time to grow. But even keeping them warm, at some stage they were just wanting to grow and sprouted. Also I mentioned earlier that when I gave these to the BX before, there was little demand. At least two people who got them have written me privately and said theirs did great and they'd love more. But both of these people live in California. I believe when we have discussed this before others said they had no luck growing them. If people in borderline cold areas want to trial them I can probably supply some more to the BX for list distribution. But only if people want them. Otherwise they will all go to the two who asked for them. Mary Sue