John lumped Galtonia, Albuca and various other genera into Ornithogalum, but now he has changed his mind and will probably be taking Albuca out again. So look out for more name changes!! ++++++++++ Hi Gang, I loved this note from Rachel S. It seems to truly capture the wonderful, quixotic-seeming, sometimes mystifying, aspects of taxonomy. John Manning gets all the credit for doing a wonderful job, and if names change it is because he's an honorable and diligent worker. Taxonomy, like many human endeavors, is not a final judgment or absolute authority. Taxonomic decisions seem only to improve over time, as with the rules of the ICBN (yes, they change over time too). The result seems to be an overall enlargement of our mountain of knowledge, pebble by pebble. Yet, the back-and-forth of it all is truly amazing and perhaps disorienting, and certainly doesn't relate to much of my plant growing. I have such a wonderful time interacting with friends and neighbors who are just happy to grow "that red hurricane lily," or "the big river oak." Taxonomy never interferes with out discussions and we're all able to understand each other. Disorienting or not, occult or not, I do need taxonomy when I correspond by email or when I purchase plants long distance. Imagine if I got "that big river oak" from central California instead of the one from southeast Texas! So, I loved the note by Rachel because it made me think of my duality. I need taxonomy, but I ignore it when it suits me to do so. I have romatic visions that Phylocode will resolve the confusion, but probably my visions are clouded by wishful thinking. Cordially, Joe Conroe TX Mild frost is forecast for tonight. The tropical Crinum have already been nipped back a bit by an earlier frost. The grass aloes seem impervious to the cold thus far. LINK: Cladistics (Wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cladistics/ LINK: Phylocode (Wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylocode/