Dear All; I am glad to hear these comments on both Polianthes and Manfreda. I admit to some off-PBS communications and I can share some info. The author, Dr. Jon Lindstrom has prepared a further article that will appear in the 2006 Sounthern Nursery Association Research Conference Proceedings. This has not been published, but he describes various inter generic hybrids between involving 5 species and forms of Manfreda and 3 of Polianthes. These include a variety of F1 hybrids and some interesting intra - generic crosses too. These hybrids show some remarkable intermediate properties, but the most intriguing are plants with the form of M. virginica, but flowers in white to pink and orange with the flower form of Polianthes and a pleasant fragrance. If you have ever been 'trapped' in a room of cut P. tuberosa you'd appreciate a less intense fragrance. Some of these are also being propagated by various means from division to tissue culture, so it seems likely that some will appear at a nursery near you one of these days. One of his crosses involves a species of Manfreda with purple spotted/blotched foliage that is maintained in a Polianthes cross. I find this very exciting work especially since it involves potentially hardy new flower forms for my area. I hope that Dr. Lindstrom might be encouraged to share more of his picture and text to PBS. I'd love to hear more about growing Polianthes outside in cooler climates. AND PLEASE (PLEASE) I wish everyone would add a signature line of where they are located ( Stae, city, country USDA Zone, something) so I can understand how it grows 'here' where ever your 'here' is located. Thanks Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +