Dear Members While looking for something else, I happened to find the following webpage Brodia Hybrids http://waynesword.palomar.edu/hybrids1.htm/… It is somewhat technical, with lots of images and image links, so if you are on dial-up, you may want to leave it for a time when you have time to spare. There is also information on various other hybrids such as Clarkia, Penstemon, etc, so may be interesting. Ken