Jim W asked if my clones of Iris rosenbachiana are outside - the answer is yes, they are in a sand bed that is protected from mid-late summer rain. I do have a couple of spares in the greenhouse in pots. There are also plants in unprotected sand beds that are fine in all but the wettest summers. I also have Iris persica and galatica in the protected sand bed. It was with great joy two weeks ago I found my Leucocrinum montanum was coming up. I've been after this plant forever and a friend in Colorado sent me a piece last fall. I was even more thrilled yesterday to see there is a flower bud. Mertensia lanceolata is also up and growing from the same source - maybe not a strict geophyte but rather nice. Welcome rain here, although I'd prefer it a bit lighter so I can get outside and relocate a bed full of woodlanders into the woods to make a new Trillium seed bed! Jane (and others who grow them) - do your NW US Fritillaria seedlings go dormant fairly early? I find that they and the Rhinopetalum section tend to early dormancy - especially after they get a whiff of weather in the 70s for a couple of days and there is even a hint of dryness in the pots. Best, John John T Lonsdale PhD 407 Edgewood Drive, Exton, Pennsylvania 19341, USA Home: 610 594 9232 Cell: 484 678 9856 Fax: 801 327 1266 Visit "Edgewood" - The Lonsdale Garden at http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/ USDA Zone 6b