I lived in central Pennsylvania, my experience with T. saxatilis was pretty much the same as Jim's. Bellefonte, PA is on the border of z5 and z6, with unreliable snow cover. The bulbs disappeared after about three years, but I did get some sparse bloom in the second year. This seemed to be more related to a dry summer than to a mild winter. I suspect the combination of wet summers and foliage destroying winters is what did them in. T. bakeri "Lilac Wonder" was a different story altogether. Like normal tulips, these bulbs waited till spring to throw up foliage and bloomed reliably every year. (They were planted about six feet from the saxatilis.) In my opinion, it's a better looking plant - more stocky with larger flowers. It didn't increase much, though, and neither T. bakeri nor T. saxatilis set any seed. Now that I'm living in Georgia, I'm going to try T. saxatilis again - in pots, for now. Incidentally, I second Sharon M's suggestion that we list our geographic locations, preferably after our signatures. We're a pretty diverse/dispersed group. I suggest listing a city (and/or county?) and state, at least for those living in the US. Eugene Zielinski Augusta, Georgia > > Message: 12 > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:45:10 -0400 > > From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@starpower.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Tulipa saxitilis > > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > > Message-ID: <4d64t5$2hqr8i@smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Dennis wrote: "Not quite SE USA, but this species performs great for me in > > Cincinnati." > > > > Dennis, are you sure it is Tulipa saxatilis you have and not Tulipa bakeri > > 'Lilac Wonder'? > > > > I'm asking this because Tulipa saxatilis has never been a success here in my > > Maryland garden. The foliage, which is generally fully developed by early > > winter, is almost always completely destroyed during the winter unless > > protected. Last winter for the first time I brought through a full clutch of > > Tulipa saxatilis foliage by covering it carefully during the worst of the > > winter. > >