So, where is the border line; or is it a continuum? Is it because the Scoliopus has simple roots? So Tropaeolum speciosum would be a geophyte because it has, what, rhizomes? So does that mean that everything with rhizomes is subject to discussion on this list? What about grasses having rhizomes? Seems that whatever definition one could pick for "geophyte" there could always be found exceptions that we would like to include or exclude from discussion on the list. Scoliopus looks as if it "should" be a geophyte, if it, indeed, is not, so I am not offended if it is discussed. Don't misunderstand, though. Alberto was probably not offended, either, but just bringing up an interesting point. Ernie O'Byrne Northwest Garden Nursery 86813 Central Road Eugene, ORegon 97402 USA USDA Z. 7B -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Mary Sue Ittner Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 7:14 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: [pbs] Wiki pictures Dear All, <SNIP> On the AB images list Lyn Edwards recently posted a picture of Scoliopus bigelovii she is growing in Australia and Alberto promptly wrote it is not a geophyte. In the past on this list I noted that the roots of my plants didn't look at all like described (short underground stems with numerous fleshy storage roots). Mine were like string. I unpotted one to take a picture. This year I've watered them all summer so they are "plump". :-) Note the grid the roots are on has 1 cm. squares. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… <SNIP> Mary Sue