Dear Jane: Although conditions here in the pampas are a lot warmer than in N. California or Oregon, my experience with Colchicums has been the same than Mary Sue's: they thrive with good drainage and rot if for any reason are in wet soil for a time. It is great to know that one more genus is thriving in your beds, Mary Sue. There is enough Colchicum material in the trade, both cultivars and species to assemble a fine collection. Best Alberto _________________________________________________________________ MSN Amor: busca tu ½ naranja http://latam.msn.com/amor/