Dear All; Jane's list of still-in-bloom tells a tale of what a difference a few degrees can make. And John tells a similar tale in another climate. Here C. speciosus is long done blooming - almost a month ago. I have tried most of the others without success. When I lived in the city and with a few degree of temp and more protection from wind, C. goulimyi was one of my favorite fall crocus. The form is exquisite, but here in sub-sub-urbia it cannot even survive. So close. A few Daffodil cvs have put up leaves- some as much as 4 inches- and way too early. By the time they'll bloom next spring the top half of the foliage will be frozen black and need trimming. None of the fall flowering types dare show their foliage. Last night we went down to 19 (a new record low for the day) and I managed to get most everything winter ready in time. Next week in the 50s will give me time to batten down the edges and close up cold frames. But it is great to hear of these gems still showing their colorful blooms. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +