At 23:48 20-11-2005, you wrote: >I got seed from crosses using pollen from the double 'Jewel' They haven't >bloomed yet so I don't know if they are really crosses. There were true >anthers visible but no pistil that I could find. > >Dell I cut mine off the stalk last night and removed the petals one by one, first the usual six, then the inner petals. On the outside of two inner petals I found 2 male things, larger at the bottom, rounded, usual size, no pollen. Inside the very small inner leaf I found what must be the ovary. Same size as the males but rounded at the top and with a small hole. So now I know where to fertilize if I ever want to. I prefer the singles. Carol