Hi Gang, I've gotten another Web page finished with some nice photos of Marcelle Sheppard's hybrids between C. macowanii and the Rose City C. scabrum plants. The Rose City plants may or may not be pure C. scabrum, Marcelle found 2 different clones growing at an old schoolhouse building in Rose City, TX. She found the clones years ago; the are essentially identical but she has named them Rose City No. 1 and Rose City No. 2, and they seem to be different in minor ways. Perhaps they both derived from the same ancestral bulb and have undergone small somatic changes. Marcelle has used these Rose City clones in a variety of crosses; they seem to be exceptionally fertile and to produce vigorous offspring. Sometimes the results have been spectacular, producing plants with enormous numbers of flowers per scape, or with exciting hot pink coloration. A few of the derived seedlings have delicate pink stripes overlain on pure white, recurving petals. LINK: C. macowanii x Rose City Schoolhouse C. scabrum http://crinum.iconx.com/html/… I've been making progress and may get the Web site completed, or nearly so in the next month or two. One goal I have is to document the green-flowered Crinum that Marcelle has created. It has light-green flowers with darker-green keels. Oddly enough, this plant derived from several backcrosses and selfing of C. bulbispermum Jumbo pink plants. The starting material, some years ago was rose-pink but eventually threw off some whites or near whites, and now the line is producing green-white and greens. Cordially, Conroe Joe P.S. The Web site for Crinums in East Texas is hosted by iconx.com (Iconics Dot Com). The Web site owner is a true plant nut and has spent many hours designing the Web site, cropping photos, etc. I can now see that my original goal of creating a Web site by myself was naive. I don't have the time or the skills.