Hi, I am assuming that the seeds that Joe is offering is of Lilium formosanum (not formosum). This tall elegant lily is very quick blooming from seed (one to two years) and in my Mediterranean climate has done really well with not much summer water, no feeding and a lot of rain in winter. My first seeds came from a BX offering. I understand this species has naturalized in South Africa so I suppose I should worry about it, but this doesn't seem to be happening in my garden. New seedlings seem to replace plants that are no longer there. I had a couple of the short form, but they seem to have disappeared, whereas the tall ones continue to please me every year. So I recommend it as a trouble free plant. Mary Sue