Hi all, Someone has started a new group on Yahoo for crinums. You can find it at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/crinum/ It is brand new, and there are not many members just yet. I joined up. Jim Shields ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA