In a message dated 2/6/2005 7:45:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, normarlene@charter.net writes: I am having a problem with deer invading our Botanical garden during the summer months and would like information/advice on supplies,height of fence,etc. Don't want to use metal fencing and cost is a real concern. We have used 7.5 foot deer fencing for several years. Use the heaviest gauge fence that you can afford. We used short lengths of galvanized electrical conduit driven into the ground as receptacles and concrete rebar (painted black) for poles. Ground staples were made from heavy aluminium wire. Use black zip ties. Doors can be fabricated from ABS drain pipe/fittings using chain link fence hinges and locks. Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. Gaylordsville, Connecticut 06755-0142 USA