Conversations with Marcelle helped me understand more about these durable and beautiful hybrids. There is no single "Jumbo" hybrid. Jumbo refers to a line of hybrids, a collection of related plants. Dear Joe and All; I am very glad to see that Ms. Sheppard has been working on these hybrids. I've grown C. bulbispermum 'Jumbo' from her from years and they are as you describe. Individual plants are huge and very hardy here surviving with little special protection. One of about a dozen has ever produced a single offset, but seedlings are easy to come by and have been distributed through thePBS BX. Honestly I am not very interested in green flowers, but am curious if her improved strains 1. Opening nearly white and during (?) dark rose on day two. 2. Deep burgundy flowers with a chamois leather type look (not feel) are available now. This is a Crinum I recommend to all in cooler climates. Nice to hear this news. Thanks. Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +