Dennis, I'm very pleased they're growing for you! I like this plant, even if the taxonomists can't figure out what its name is. 2 meter inflorescences from those small rosettes, with oddly colored fragrant flowers, and thrives in rocky sites with no summer moisture. I'll have to look tomorow at my plants to see if any have more persistent foliage. I gather some populations have very well-marked leaves. Unfortuantely, the populations around here seem to be at best lightly marked. Steve On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Dennis Kramb wrote: > > >They quickly lose their foliage in winter here as well - in fact, I didn't > >realize there were strains that didn't until I saw your note. Flowering time > > > Okay, I revisited the site and confirmed I was wrong. They were mostly > blasted by winter the same as my Arkansas Manfreda. However, one still > looked quite green in comparison to the others. Where most of them were > nearly totally defoliated (deciduous), one still had some green (it was one > of the few that had not bloomed this year). Amongst all that brown the > green really popped out visually. > > I uploaded a photo of it to http://www.badbear.com/mfda.jpg > > Sorry for the confusion! > > Dennis in Cincy -- Steve Marak -- samarak@gizmoworks.com