Hi Gang, I've gotten the Crinum bulbispermum Jumbo page in better condition. Conversations with Marcelle helped me understand more about these durable and beautiful hybrids. There is no single "Jumbo" hybrid. Jumbo refers to a line of hybrids, a collection of related plants. The Jumbos are big bulbs that don't offset, so Marcelle calls them Jumbo-sized because they grow large in the garden, becoming 50% larger than a typical C. bulbispermum. In fact, they make excellent landscape plants. The Jumbos are important because they have strong scapes, typically provide offspring with lots of reblooming and lots of big flowers, and they are nearly evergreen in zone 9. Additionally, they gave rise to several special flower colors or types: 1. Opening nearly white and during dark rose on day two. 2. Deep burgundy flowers with a chamois leather type look (not feel) 3. Green-white flowers (page not up yet), and most importantly; 4. Flowers that are pure green. These latter hybrids, which are unnamed, are remarkable. I hope to have that page put up soon. Marcelle concentrated on the palest of the Jumbos, selfing and backcrossing them; eventually she produced a hybrids that make beautiful flowers of pure white with green keels, or (most exceptionally) pure green flowers. The green flowers are a soft-pale green (no white in the tepals) and have a good shape. The keels are just a bit darker green than the tepal flanges and the flowers are held high on strong stems. So, if you are interested in Crinum check out the Jumbo page, and I'll try to get the green-flowered Crinum page up in a day or two. LINK: C. bulbispermum Jumbo hybrids http://www.crinum.iconx.com/html/jumbos.html Cordially, Conroe Joe (Joe Shaw, Conroe, TX)