>They quickly lose their foliage in winter here as well - in fact, I didn't >realize there were strains that didn't until I saw your note. Flowering time Okay, I revisited the site and confirmed I was wrong. They were mostly blasted by winter the same as my Arkansas Manfreda. However, one still looked quite green in comparison to the others. Where most of them were nearly totally defoliated (deciduous), one still had some green (it was one of the few that had not bloomed this year). Amongst all that brown the green really popped out visually. I uploaded a photo of it to http://www.badbear.com/mfda.jpg Sorry for the confusion! Dennis in Cincy
