Thanks for posting that, Mary Sue. Believe it or not, I was about to make the same post myself awhile back. I have several posts in mind which deal with the peculiar meanings horticulturists seem to see in botanical nomenclature, and that was one of them. I balked because I have not read the most recent version of the code and did not want to spread misinformation. If you've got more squirreled away, please post them! Jim McKenney