>Dear members >To those struggling with hardware cloth: Have you tried interplanting your >bulbs with various Tagetes, euphorbias, etc.? >There are number of websites that really endorse these remedies. Type-- >moles, voles, marigolds--- into your search strip. My own direct >experience is nil This is one subject on which I suggest you take what you read on the internet with a very large grain of salt. There is research which shows that some marigolds do repel or kill nematodes--but not the marigolds (Tagetes) commonly grown. Those eager to sell often brag that marigolds kill nematodes, without bothering to mention (and possibly without even knowing or caring) that it only applies to certain marigolds. Planting African marigolds may look pretty, but will do nothing for nematode control. My experience with Euphorbias is that they do not work as a rodent deterrent. Yes, some of them are very weedy, and almost impossible to get rid of. Perhaps because they are difficult to get rid of, someone claimed they were being left "to control rodents", rather than admit they couldn't weed them out. Not all Euphorbias are fast growing and weedy, so use normal caution in what you choose to plant. Perhaps some of you do have experience with either marigolds or Euphorbias where they actually work. I'd be pleased to know details of which marigolds, which Euphorbias, and whether or not similiar but unprotected plants were nearby. In other words, the fact that they didn't work for me doesn't mean they never work--but I'd need experience where they did work before I change my mind. Interplanting various different plants is often a good strategy to confuse predators, and even deer may pass by a single lily when grown among a planting of foxgloves. Ken