Dear Gerhard and Brian, I haven't received a seed list from Ron Ratko yet this year. Last year's list was emailed and it arrived on January 13th. There was not a listing for Scoliopus. I believe he talked about adding it one year, but generally it is felt to be short lived seed. Last year in January we talked about this plant and that the plant finder misspells Scoliopus bigelovii so in case Gerhard was not a list member then, you'll need to type in Scoliopus and then you will get them both. IPNI does not list Scoliopus bigelowii as a name for this plant. I potted my plants in bigger pots after communicating with Ian Young and watered them more regularly when they were dormant, so now I have to wait to see if they will be more vigorous this year and actually bloom. So far there is not sign of them breaking dormancy which often doesn't happen for me until January or even February. Of course I can always visit them in the wild even if mine do not bloom which is always a treat. Mary Sue Mary Sue Ittner California's North Coast Wet mild winters with occasional frost Dry mild summers