Paul, Dash, et al: If you are curious and want to see how H. gracilifolius looks like, there is a good image of it in IBS Gallery under "Habranthus estensis Willem Reuter". To my knowledge this is the only image of it around. Estensis (a side view of it would be useful) resembles a Platycodon in shape very much. All the best Alberto _________________________________________________________________ Charla con tus amigos en lĂnea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.yupimsn.com/