Dear Lee, Cynthia and Judy: Many thanks for the trouble you are taking in finding these most interesting threads. I happen to be the owner of a complete collection of Herbertia/Plant Life/Herbertia. It was accidentally spared when the Feb. 2001 hurricane pulverized half of my library. I do not remember any mention to this name though. The main difference between the "oxblood lily" and the several color forms of R. bifida here is the ability of the former to offset freely. It however never set seed and I remember the late Marcia Clint Wilson mentioned how difficult it was to her to obtain any seed from crossing many oxblood lily plants. So all the plants around the South seems to be the same clone. All the best Alberto _________________________________________________________________ Charla con tus amigos en lĂnea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.yupimsn.com/