It has been hardy here in Z. 7 for many years (see note in signature block). The lowest temp it has been through is 0 degrees F. (-18 C.). Ernie O'Byrne Northwest Garden Nursery 86813 Central Road Eugene OR 97402-9284 USA Phone: 541 935-3915 FAX: 541 935-0863 Eugene, Oregon is USDA Zone 8a on the map, but we can only grow Zone 7 plants reliably. Member of NARGS, SRGC, RHS, American Primula Society, Meconopsis Group, Alpine-L, Arisaema-L, Hellebore Group "Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal." -- Martin Luther King, Jr. -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Antennaria@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:26 AM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [pbs] Re: Allium schubertii <SNIP> I'd like to hear from people who grow this plant, particularly in colder climates. It's known to be somewhat tender, and certainly that has proved true in my northern Massachusetts climate. I have to be satisfied with A. cristophii (note correct spelling, without the "h") to enjoy giant spidery balls of bloom. Do others find this species (schubertii) tender? Mark McDonough Pepperell, Massachusetts, United States antennaria@aol.com "New England" USDA Zone 5