Dear All, I was just looking for the reference to the IBSA Symposium in August (Monday 25 August to Friday 29 of August in the archives and see that archives for November and October are missing even though they got edited and sent to ibiblio (twice!) Since I promised myself to let them remain as they are and not attempt endless fixes anyone who is interested in this Symposium can email me privately and I'll send you the details. Participants gather on Sunday, hear speakers Monday and Tuesday and go out into the field to see plants Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. The Symposium ends Friday afternoon when the field work is over. The registration closes March 31 2003. My latest IBSA news has announced the speakers and they are lining up many of THE local experts on South African plants. So far the speakers are to be Dee Snijman (Amaryllid writer of the Bulb Encyclopedia), John Rourke, Peter Knippels (Holland), Dave Lehlmiller (USA), Rod Saunders, Cameron McMaster (probably for Eastern Cape flora), Alison van der Merwe (Massonia/Polyxena probably) and Peter Craib. Rachel will sub for Peter if he isn't available and Robin Jangle is to be invited too. Mary Sue