In a message dated 3/22/03 3:56:10 AM, Matthewgale@btopenworld.com writes: << It's interesting that he says they are sterile and triploid; which agrees with what a lot of people have been saying on the forum. This form is clearly self-sterile, but can it be crossed with other forms of R. bifida (assuming that it is triploid)? I'm also wondering whether this triploid form is more vigorous than the usual form - does anyone grow this triploid form as well as the usual form for comparison? Matthew Gale Birmingham, UK matthewgale@btopenworld.com >> It can be crossed with other forms, and yes it is more vigorous, at least in the sense that it divides (rapidly in fact) while the wild diploid forms divide little if at all on their own--never in the wild I am told. Best wishes, Bill the Bulb Baron William R.P. Welch P.O. Box 1736 (UPS: 264 West Carmel Valley Road) Carmel Valley, CA 93924-1736, USA Phone/fax (831) 659-3830