I got an email from Jim. He is not available on the 9th. But the 8th is just fine. So, all those are are available, let me know. John Ingram jjingram@adelphia.net Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/… http://www.floralartistry.org/ http://photos.yahoo.com/floralartistry2000/