I have sent three pics of an unknown bulb to Alpenpix: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpenPix/… I believe it is an irid (hope I'm not showing my ignorance here), one of the empty seed capsule, one of an open flower and one of an unopened flower with an opening seed capsule next to it. I should add that the brown bits in the open seed capsule are not the seeds, but only aborted seeds. The seed is black and large, as I hope can be seen in the capsule just opening. We collected the seed in South Africa on a trip there in 1996 and it bloomed last year for the first time. It is not in Rix and Phillips that I can see, but I'm sure that it is probably pretty obvious to the bulb enthusiasts on this list. Thanks for helping. Oh, it is about 8" tall when in flower and blooms without the foliage showing--actually the foliage is just emerging. It is blooming now and has been for about a month. It is apparently hardy outside here, since it is in a raised trough and has been through 10 degrees F. I am cross posting this to both the Pacific Bulb Group and Alpine-L to take advantage of both pools of knowledge. Apologies for duplication. Ernie O'Byrne Northwest Garden Nursery 86813 Central Road Eugene OR 97402-9284 USA Phone: 541 935-3915 FAX: 541 935-0863 Eugene, Oregon is USDA Zone 8a on the map, but we can only grow Zone 7 plants reliably. Member of NARGS, SRGC, RHS, American Primula Society, Meconopsis Group, Alpine-L, Arisaema-L, Hellebore Group