Well, everyone now has me tempted to soak all my pots in water and see what happens but I don't think I have enough space or saucers to hold sufficient water. My Hab. tub. Var tex. Has been blooming all summer but only one spike here, one spike there. Nothing as a show really. All I get to see are the seedpods forming as I usually miss the flowers. I had 3 pods ripe yesterday that I guided the seeds back into the pot for future generations. I have a few others that I can report on later that are doing similarly. They are all growing in the same flat and I wonder how freely these hybridize. They are self pollinating like tomatoes are they not? Or could I possibly have hybrid seeds on my hands here that will be growing in the same pot and perplexing me in future years? The H. Labuffarosea have been flowering quite nicely since the dry period of my vacation. Over half of the pots have flowered and there are more flowers coming every day. Nice big pinks that really stand out. I planted 8 of these in the ground yesterday for a client. All the roots were on the bottom of the pot and none on a side anywhere. And even though were flowering, the soil was nearly completely dry. Since there are 4 flats of these, I don't think I will be able to try too many of them in the saucers for experiment. The experiment will be in the open ground as my client waters pretty regularly. They are really just now greening up this month and coming out of dormancy. As I said in an earlier posting, they were divided in March (April maybe) from 1 gal. size and put into 4" pots. It has taken them from then until maybe 2 weeks ago (beginning right after the 4th of July weekend) to really start greening up. Do others have this plant start growing late in the season for them or mine just in a minor shock from being divided? I have had one flower on my Hab. tub. Var tub. I only found a seed pod one day. The same with Z. katherinae (I found the broken label buried in the soil as I was moving bulbs around. Katherinae I found the bulb flowering when I went to move a bunch of stuff and had no idea what it was as I was growing next to candida (which still has never taken off for me. I get a few off sets but that is about it. It has never flowered for me. All those in the Havenhurst garden never get a dry rest period and that may be why. But, they are never really "wet" either. I flood the garden once or twice a week and let them do what ever. The crocosmias would appreciate more water but they hold on and flower (not too spectaculous though). The crinums and tomatoes especially want more water but, oh well. My Z. carinata (which someone posted as being a syn. for grandiflora???) is putting out a second spike for the month. Not bad for one bulb that I just got the end of June. The other flower was distorted but this one looks normal and I will post pictures of this one instead on the images list when it opens. There is one restaurant nearby my storage unit that I sometimes eat at when there that has a large clump of candida growing next to the valet stand. Once when I was there (and I unfortunately did not make note of the time of year) it was in full bloom. The whole clump (about 1 1/2' wide) must have had well over 40 blooms on it. There were also many buds as well as passed blooms. I have seen this one sold at local markets and wholesalers occasionally. Was never really interested in buying it though but it's around. I had a client who did buy it and kept it in a tacky cache pot without drainage holes. It was very often growing under water or else very wet. I would dump the water out every other month or so. In the 2+ years I worked for him (almost monthly) I never saw a bloom on the pot. Maybe that is the reason why I never had a desire to get any. John Ingram jjingram@adelphia.net http://www.floralartistry.org/