Mitch, You replied to the digest email so the context of your question is lost but I remember the topic. No one is making money off of these pdfs and the work put into creating them makes content available that would otherwise be inaccessible. I am going to wager neither you, the other editors nor any of the contributors to these journals were paid for their work. The pdfs preserve all attributions of their original content creators. The members of the society that created this journal paid their membership dues and received these journals for their payment. The society itself is now defunct. What, exactly, would be the purpose of concerning ourselves with who gave permission to create these pdfs? Who is being harmed by them being made available? Should we be concerned about whether the authors of the Herculaneum scrolls or the illuminators of the Book of Kells gave permission to have their content made digitally available? Too much human knowledge is trapped behind journal paywalls already. More, still, is lost to pointless concerns about securing "permission to share" material that was created by people who wanted to share their knowledge in their first place. I cannot imagine a single author or photographer who created this work being concerned about whether more people get to enjoy it as long as attributions is maintained. I say this as an author and photographer of published content. Forgive my rant, but we have to be the change we want to see in the world. -|<ipp ________________________________ From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of R Mitchel BEAUCHAMP via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2024 4:16 PM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Cc: mitch@psbs.com <mitch@psbs.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] pbs Digest, Vol 85, Issue 8 As a former editor of Plant Life/Herbertia, I was wondering who gave permission to make these journals available digitally? R Mitchel Beauchamp On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 12:00:01 +0000, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: Send pbs mailing list submissions to pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//…<https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net You can reach the person managing the list at pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." List-Post: To: Mary Gorton via pbs Subject: Re: [pbs] Haemanthus albiflos seed offering - Michael Homick Message-ID: <2037511351.1843219.1710247967386@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Mary Just put "GP" in the optional note section on this page. BX/SX Payments | | | | BX/SX Payments BX/SX Payments | | | Arnold A On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 12:09:59 AM EDT, Mary Gorton via pbs wrote: What number should I put in?BX/SX? ? ? On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 04:31:54 PM EST, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote:? ? If by check made out to PBS to my address with GP on the memo section of the check. 140 Lakeview AvenueLeonia, NJ 07605 If PayPal. In the note section just put GP where it says "optional note" BX/SX Payments | | |? | BX/SX Payments BX/SX Payments | | | Thanks Arnold ? ? On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 04:17:32 PM EST, Mary Gorton via pbs wrote:? ? Arnold, To what address should I send the money?? Where should I place the initials 'GP'?Thanks. Mary Gorton ? ? On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 08:00:27 AM EST, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote:? To make the processing of any donations to the PBS as a result of Mike and Paul?s generosity please indicate on PayPal or a check the initials ?GP? so I can credit it as a donation? Thanks again for all the good will and kindness that we so often see amoung the group? Arnold? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, January 8, 2024, 9:09 PM, Michael Homick via pbs wrote: Haemanthus albiflos seed offering I have a number of Haemanthus albiflos plants that have ripe *seed* available for anyone with a USA mailing address. I will gladly ship seed with the hope that the person receiving the seed sends a donation to the PBS for what it is worth to them. I will be willing to cover the postage expenses. Email me privately please and not to the group. Let me know how many seeds you could utilize as I will probably have 1000 or more available. 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